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MessageSujet: Re: Do you speak English?   Sam 6 Jan 2018 - 20:54

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I wash his videos

You help him make a clean work? Wink
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MessageSujet: Re: Do you speak English?   Jeu 8 Fév 2018 - 23:32

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Today, we begin a new series from a book by American writer Edgar Rice Burroughs. The book is called "A Princess of Mars." It is the first book in a series that Mr. Burroughs wrote about a man who travels to Mars during the last years of the eighteen hundreds. There, the man meets strange beings and sees strange sights. At first he is a captive, then a warrior, and after many battles, a prince of a royal family.

http://www.manythings.org/voa/stories/A_Princess_of_Mars_-_By_Edgar_Rice_Burroughs_-__Part_1.html
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MessageSujet: Re: Do you speak English?   Ven 9 Fév 2018 - 11:12

Vilko a écrit:
Velonzio Noeudefée a écrit:
I wash his videos

You help him make a clean work? Wink

watch, sorry !
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MessageSujet: Re: Do you speak English?   Jeu 7 Juin 2018 - 16:17

More and more often, the documentations of auxlangs are open-source, and easy to clone. I think it's a good news. Now, it will be more easy to fork a language if you don't agree anymore wiht your team, or if you decide to experience new grammar points. And, especially, it will be more easy to takeover an abandoned project.

Furthermore, I discovered that I was interested in the concept of demlang. But that it lakes a little of easy and direct democracy for all speakers.

So I wrote a GitHub page about "coopidgin", to try the concept of a label for auxlang communities who want to show that their documentation are open-source, and who want to experiment with direct democracy, through polls. I have no time more for the moment. But I will be back.

https://www.reddit.com/r/auxlangs/comments/8lalo0/coopidgin_a_label_for_cooperativist_auxlangs/
https://github.com/coopidgin-foundation/coopidgin-label/blob/master/README.md
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MessageSujet: Re: Do you speak English?   Ven 8 Juin 2018 - 2:40

Yatem a écrit:
"(...) Why are you doing this, man?"

For the sake of exploring and bringing back some invaluable insight?
This can be so much more than just building something.
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MessageSujet: Re: Do you speak English?   Ven 8 Juin 2018 - 10:56

Leo a écrit:
Yatem a écrit:
"(...) Why are you doing this, man?"

For the sake of exploring and bringing back some invaluable insight?
This can be so much more than just building something.

Well done ! cheers

I couldn't express it better.

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MessageSujet: Re: Do you speak English?   Ven 8 Juin 2018 - 11:05

Leo a écrit:
Yatem a écrit:
"(...) Why are you doing this, man?"

For the sake of exploring and bringing back some invaluable insight?
This can be so much more than just building something.

I just don't understand why everything have to be usefull. I'm in fact proud of the uselessness of my hobby! We are living in a technical society, in which efficiency is the ultimate goal. For me, it's a way to resist against it to have unefficiency as a goal.

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MessageSujet: Re: Do you speak English?   Ven 8 Juin 2018 - 11:07

I am useless, nobody can deny that.
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MessageSujet: Re: Do you speak English?   Ven 8 Juin 2018 - 11:11

Elara a écrit:
I am useless, nobody can deny that.

We all are.

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MessageSujet: Re: Do you speak English?   Ven 8 Juin 2018 - 11:11

Emanuelo a écrit:
Elara a écrit:
I am useless, nobody can deny that.

We all are.

Some are more useless than others.
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MessageSujet: Re: Do you speak English?   Ven 8 Juin 2018 - 11:18

Maybe some have more illusions about that than others... Usefullness is for machines, not humans. Life's not a game to win, nor a blank page to make black. I hate the French expressions "réussir sa vie" or "faire quelque chose de sa vie", they're shit. One do what he/she can, and that's already perfect. Asses will judge you, but what's the judgement of an ass?

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Leko kakanasi kanāsa haneselola fenegedota tehaŝeloma cegedota vugedote (Rashi).

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MessageSujet: Re: Do you speak English?   Ven 8 Juin 2018 - 11:34

Now, I speak anuvian better than english; it's not very useful, but it occupies me. Razz Razz Razz

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MessageSujet: Re: Do you speak English?   Ven 8 Juin 2018 - 11:37

At least you're able to love your creation, and people love it back.

Everybody loves Kanan, but I hate it more than anything (except myself, of course).
It is the reason why all my conlangs are pure failures.
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MessageSujet: Re: Do you speak English?   Ven 8 Juin 2018 - 12:29

From the hate to the love, there's only one little step. Only few feet. Only few cm. So near and though so far from you. And this distance, these back and forths as the see are the origin of the conlanging.
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MessageSujet: Re: Do you speak English?   Ven 8 Juin 2018 - 13:20

Velonzio Noeudefée a écrit:
From the hate to the love, there's only one little step. Only few feet. Only few cm. So near and though so far from you. And this distance, these back and forths as the see are the origin of the conlanging.

Forgive me, but this is nonsense.
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MessageSujet: Re: Do you speak English?   Ven 8 Juin 2018 - 13:30

Is it possible to speak about this in another file, in french (the pub) or in our conlangs?

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MessageSujet: Re: Do you speak English?   Ven 8 Juin 2018 - 14:00

Anoev a écrit:
Is it possible to speak about this in another file, in french (the pub) or in our conlangs?

Why not, it wouldn't bother me even if nobody agrees with me about what I think about that.
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MessageSujet: Re: Do you speak English?   Sam 9 Juin 2018 - 2:25

Elara a écrit:
At least you're able to love your creation

Actually I'm not and this is why I can't keep at it. Creating can even be a painful servitude. So, back to the question: Why? Do you agree that it transforms you, even if not into what you expected or hoped?
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MessageSujet: Re: Do you speak English?   Sam 9 Juin 2018 - 6:16

Leo a écrit:
Elara a écrit:
At least you're able to love your creation

Actually I'm not and this is why I can't keep at it. Creating can even be a painful servitude. So, back to the question: Why? Do you agree that it transforms you, even if not into what you expected or hoped?

I do agree. It transformed me into something even more awful than what I was before. I hate my only working conlang so much... yet everybody is loving it.

It has been haunting my mind for too long, definitely too long. And that heretic thing is why I can't succeed at making anything else.

More than fifty corpses because of it (well, I don't know if we can speak about "corpses" if they are conlangs but still).

My only successful conlang, my first and my last. Nobody wants to understand that, to understand me, to feel how much suffering Kanan brought for more than three years.

Everybody is saying that it's wonderful, thinking that it must be a dream to be able to speak one's conlang with such ease. No. It's a nightmare. It's something horrendous, gruesome. My own creation filled me with despair, hopelessness, and a strong will to die.
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MessageSujet: Re: Do you speak English?   Sam 9 Juin 2018 - 9:17

To tell the truth Elara, I never been interested in your linguistic creations for two reasons:

- Lack of time.
- Your negative vision of life and of your work prevents any constructive exchange or any possible learning.

However, as part of my work of archiving ideolangues on Idéopédia and the vocabulary on Idéolexique, I will be led to study your work.

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MessageSujet: Re: Do you speak English?   Sam 9 Juin 2018 - 13:16

Elara a écrit:
My own creation filled me with despair, hopelessness, and a strong will to die.

That's not funny, Elara. If you seriously think that, you should seek help, real help. Complaining here is pointless, we can't help you with that.
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MessageSujet: Re: Do you speak English?   Sam 9 Juin 2018 - 15:29

Shabtai a écrit:
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My own creation filled me with despair, hopelessness, and a strong will to die.

That's not funny, Elara. If you seriously think that, you should seek help, real help. Complaining here is pointless, we can't help you with that.

I don't think she's joking. I think she really feel what she says.

I pass alongside with this kind of personality frequently in the context of my work. out of respect for her I won't speak here of the existing solutions to help here. That's not the place for it. In private message, I am fully available for this.

The only thing I'd ask her is not to break the atmosphere of this forum with some subjective feelings that reflect her personal discomfort. We are neither a psychiatrist nor a psychologist, we are conlanger and our reports stop there. We said to her what we think about her conlangs, and she seems not to accept it. What a pity !

When Elara wants to talk about her conlang, I really want to listen and read about it. But if she want to complain but if she wants to complain or share her personal problems other people would be better able to help her. Wink

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